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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banks and businesses file for chapter 11 or 13 all the time it&#039;s part of the business cycle.  Although those who can afford to pay for their obligations should not walk away but for those who have lost their jobs because of the current financial crisis created by the Fed and the Banksters people are forced to implement drastic measures such as a voluntary repo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banks and businesses file for chapter 11 or 13 all the time it&#8217;s part of the business cycle.  Although those who can afford to pay for their obligations should not walk away but for those who have lost their jobs because of the current financial crisis created by the Fed and the Banksters people are forced to implement drastic measures such as a voluntary repo.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane doe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 02:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes there are a lot of lazy ass people but there are also people with unexpected crappy situations. My husband worked hard all his life 2-3 jobs at a time and all the overtime he could get. Then one day his back starts hurting. He later finds that the pain is cancer and has spread all over his body. Within 3 months of the back pain atarting he is on deaths door . Now the creditors he has faithfully paid  without missing a payment ever refuse to work with me on his debts. They are his debts might I add, which he had prior to our marriage, I am hard working too aNd pay my own bills. So what does he do walk away is the only Answer IcN think of. If you have a better one I&#039;d like to know cause I&#039;m stumped and I don&#039;t see why I should assume pre-marriage debts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes there are a lot of lazy ass people but there are also people with unexpected crappy situations. My husband worked hard all his life 2-3 jobs at a time and all the overtime he could get. Then one day his back starts hurting. He later finds that the pain is cancer and has spread all over his body. Within 3 months of the back pain atarting he is on deaths door . Now the creditors he has faithfully paid  without missing a payment ever refuse to work with me on his debts. They are his debts might I add, which he had prior to our marriage, I am hard working too aNd pay my own bills. So what does he do walk away is the only Answer IcN think of. If you have a better one I&#8217;d like to know cause I&#8217;m stumped and I don&#8217;t see why I should assume pre-marriage debts.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kimrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Kimrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG! What a asshole you are Dave! Wake up and get the sleepy out of your eyes and really really look around. Your article showed your ignorance of the envitroment that  banks and other lenders operate against the common man. Greed of those institutions is what has caused this problem, inability of those enities to work with a troubled economic costomer base. Damn Dude Get Real! 
Just sayin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! What a asshole you are Dave! Wake up and get the sleepy out of your eyes and really really look around. Your article showed your ignorance of the envitroment that  banks and other lenders operate against the common man. Greed of those institutions is what has caused this problem, inability of those enities to work with a troubled economic costomer base. Damn Dude Get Real!<br />
Just sayin!</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Washington</title>
		<link>http://doyoudaveramsey.com/voluntary-repo-bad-practice/comment-page-1/#comment-2932</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Washington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With inflation still growing and unemployment high, far more folks are struggling to generate ways to save on their finances, but voluntary repo is never an option or a route to go.

The cost of running a car is a significant burden on a lot of household budgets: Gas costs are high, not helped by the instability in the Middle East that looks to be a characteristic of the political panorama that is going to be with us for most time. 

Current inspections in the press suggest that some groups of friends are picking to burn the car to conserve money. While the price of motoring regularly seems to be rising, there are most other options to cut the price, various than waving goodbye to the wheels.  Some of the other options to save money is by getting the right kind of insurance.  People should learn to cut back on their expenses than looking into voluntary repo, it will literally destroy your purpose and business in life.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With inflation still growing and unemployment high, far more folks are struggling to generate ways to save on their finances, but voluntary repo is never an option or a route to go.</p>
<p>The cost of running a car is a significant burden on a lot of household budgets: Gas costs are high, not helped by the instability in the Middle East that looks to be a characteristic of the political panorama that is going to be with us for most time. </p>
<p>Current inspections in the press suggest that some groups of friends are picking to burn the car to conserve money. While the price of motoring regularly seems to be rising, there are most other options to cut the price, various than waving goodbye to the wheels.  Some of the other options to save money is by getting the right kind of insurance.  People should learn to cut back on their expenses than looking into voluntary repo, it will literally destroy your purpose and business in life.</p>
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		<title>By: Mule Sneakers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mule Sneakers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 00:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We live in a free country. If a person wants to walk out on their debts they can do that. If they want to pay their debts they can do that to..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in a free country. If a person wants to walk out on their debts they can do that. If they want to pay their debts they can do that to..</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ozment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Ozment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 01:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks TomTom, I appreciate your message.  You set forth a lot of ground for me to cover, but allow me a chance to cover as much as possible.  I owe you at least that much considering the passion with which you wrote.

Where to start?

Well, let me start by saying that I commend you for your effort and diligence.  I applaud a man willing to sacrifice for his family, and so sir, I applaud you.  In no way are you participating in a Voluntary Repo, rather you fighting tooth and nail.   You may still loose your home but not before you put up one hell of a fight.  I call that backbone and in no way would I criticize you for your efforts.

There are people - people with far less character than you - that will voluntarily stop making mortgage payments just because their home is worth less than they owe.  They will forfeit their home not because they can&#039;t make the payments but because they simply don&#039;t want to make them.  I consider that cowardly and a far cry from what you are doing.

I can&#039;t speak for all of Ramsey&#039;s product pricing but most of them are actually priced pretty low and he&#039;s always running sales.  Check out his web site.  His books are routinely $10 and there are plenty of free articles and resources on his site too.  Heck, his radio program is 3 hours everyday and free.  He offers tons of great advice everyday for free.  The first hour is free for download on iTunes.  While I applaud your work ethic, I have to say you&#039;re missing the boat on the pricing and availability of free advice, sorry, I&#039;m just being honest with you.

As for me... I&#039;m not selling anything so every article you&#039;ll see here is free.  I have free budget downloads and invite you to give them a look.  Ask me questions and I&#039;ll do my best to answer them.  Click the &#039;contact me&#039; button and send me an email.  If that doesn&#039;t work for you, write it in the comments and I&#039;ll gladly spend time with it.  I have your email as a result of commenting... post a comment asking me to email you and I will.  In the spirit of free advice... I&#039;d encourage you to revisit your mortgage paperwork.  Your lender can not restate the terms of your loan on a whim.  Even adjustable rate loans have terms that the bank is bound to follow.  I encourage you to recheck the interest rate.  If you&#039;re at 11.6%.... mistakes have been made.  You&#039;ll want to know which are yours and which are theirs.

Keep fighting the good fight.  You sound like a hard working man trying to provide.  That&#039;s noble.  In the meantime, please reach out to me if you have questions I can attempt to answer.  I can&#039;t promise a perfect answer, but I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;d do in your position.

Thanks for commenting!
Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks TomTom, I appreciate your message.  You set forth a lot of ground for me to cover, but allow me a chance to cover as much as possible.  I owe you at least that much considering the passion with which you wrote.</p>
<p>Where to start?</p>
<p>Well, let me start by saying that I commend you for your effort and diligence.  I applaud a man willing to sacrifice for his family, and so sir, I applaud you.  In no way are you participating in a Voluntary Repo, rather you fighting tooth and nail.   You may still loose your home but not before you put up one hell of a fight.  I call that backbone and in no way would I criticize you for your efforts.</p>
<p>There are people &#8211; people with far less character than you &#8211; that will voluntarily stop making mortgage payments just because their home is worth less than they owe.  They will forfeit their home not because they can&#8217;t make the payments but because they simply don&#8217;t want to make them.  I consider that cowardly and a far cry from what you are doing.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for all of Ramsey&#8217;s product pricing but most of them are actually priced pretty low and he&#8217;s always running sales.  Check out his web site.  His books are routinely $10 and there are plenty of free articles and resources on his site too.  Heck, his radio program is 3 hours everyday and free.  He offers tons of great advice everyday for free.  The first hour is free for download on iTunes.  While I applaud your work ethic, I have to say you&#8217;re missing the boat on the pricing and availability of free advice, sorry, I&#8217;m just being honest with you.</p>
<p>As for me&#8230; I&#8217;m not selling anything so every article you&#8217;ll see here is free.  I have free budget downloads and invite you to give them a look.  Ask me questions and I&#8217;ll do my best to answer them.  Click the &#8216;contact me&#8217; button and send me an email.  If that doesn&#8217;t work for you, write it in the comments and I&#8217;ll gladly spend time with it.  I have your email as a result of commenting&#8230; post a comment asking me to email you and I will.  In the spirit of free advice&#8230; I&#8217;d encourage you to revisit your mortgage paperwork.  Your lender can not restate the terms of your loan on a whim.  Even adjustable rate loans have terms that the bank is bound to follow.  I encourage you to recheck the interest rate.  If you&#8217;re at 11.6%&#8230;. mistakes have been made.  You&#8217;ll want to know which are yours and which are theirs.</p>
<p>Keep fighting the good fight.  You sound like a hard working man trying to provide.  That&#8217;s noble.  In the meantime, please reach out to me if you have questions I can attempt to answer.  I can&#8217;t promise a perfect answer, but I&#8217;ll tell you what I&#8217;d do in your position.</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting!<br />
Dave</p>
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		<title>By: tomtom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomtom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im sorry but I do not agree with everything you have said here.  First of all some people still have a backbone and have fought to keep their home.  For example I am currently in the situation of either short selling my home or doing voluntary.  I have come to the point that I have no choice.  My property has been in my family for 20 years and it kills me to think I may lose it.  I have been working 3 jobs to pay for it, taking extra side jobs and my kids hate me right now because I will not even take them to McDonalds after their sports.  I have cut all extras only basic living, sold all valuable assets.  All of this due to my wife and I are only making half of what we used to due to paycuts and rising health insurance.  Also not to mention my mortgage company decided that since the governement stepped in and said the average american can afford 31% of their GROSS income in house payment that is what my new payment is which is 11.6% interest.  I was not a day late for the past 5 years until this happened.  The government forgot about the fedral tax, social tax, state tax, oh and I have to pay 2% of my gross to the county i work in because they are considered a tourist attraction even though there is not a damn thing here to visit.  Now after all of the sleepless nights I have had not from money stress but awake to work 18 hours per day how in the hell can you say everyone in this situation has no back bone?  Now let me ask you and Mr. Ramsey something!  Why is your classes and books so expensive?  Hell the people who need them are already broke! Couldnt they use that money to save or pay a bill?  Would you offer expert advice to someone who is in desperate need for free to try and save their home so they do not fall into your god forsaken judgement?  I think the answer is NO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sorry but I do not agree with everything you have said here.  First of all some people still have a backbone and have fought to keep their home.  For example I am currently in the situation of either short selling my home or doing voluntary.  I have come to the point that I have no choice.  My property has been in my family for 20 years and it kills me to think I may lose it.  I have been working 3 jobs to pay for it, taking extra side jobs and my kids hate me right now because I will not even take them to McDonalds after their sports.  I have cut all extras only basic living, sold all valuable assets.  All of this due to my wife and I are only making half of what we used to due to paycuts and rising health insurance.  Also not to mention my mortgage company decided that since the governement stepped in and said the average american can afford 31% of their GROSS income in house payment that is what my new payment is which is 11.6% interest.  I was not a day late for the past 5 years until this happened.  The government forgot about the fedral tax, social tax, state tax, oh and I have to pay 2% of my gross to the county i work in because they are considered a tourist attraction even though there is not a damn thing here to visit.  Now after all of the sleepless nights I have had not from money stress but awake to work 18 hours per day how in the hell can you say everyone in this situation has no back bone?  Now let me ask you and Mr. Ramsey something!  Why is your classes and books so expensive?  Hell the people who need them are already broke! Couldnt they use that money to save or pay a bill?  Would you offer expert advice to someone who is in desperate need for free to try and save their home so they do not fall into your god forsaken judgement?  I think the answer is NO!</p>
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		<title>By: Paula: Say No to Debt Collectors</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula: Say No to Debt Collectors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Great article and discussion. Too many creditors use deceptive practices in lending and consumers really must be protected. Yes, we are a law firm so we are biased and there are many very good lenders, however we have seen too many clients that have been taken advantage of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Great article and discussion. Too many creditors use deceptive practices in lending and consumers really must be protected. Yes, we are a law firm so we are biased and there are many very good lenders, however we have seen too many clients that have been taken advantage of.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen this so much in Canada where I am, but I&#039;ve definitely heard of this from colleagues and friends in the USA. I really don&#039;t believe this is the solution. People should take responsbility for their own actions, including their debts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen this so much in Canada where I am, but I&#8217;ve definitely heard of this from colleagues and friends in the USA. I really don&#8217;t believe this is the solution. People should take responsbility for their own actions, including their debts.<br />
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		<title>By: Dave Ozment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Ozment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Cindy!

You make some good points and I hope I can clarify my position.  In general, I think there are 2 kinds of people who files for bankruptcy or who have their possessions repossessed.

1 - there are good folks who fall on hard times and then backed into a corner after doing all they can and while being as honorable as they can through the process, they simply run out of rope.  They have to do something to reset the clock and start over.  In these instances giving up a house or car or filing for protection under bankruptcy laws is an acceptable (though unpleasant) path to take.  Folks in the group never intented or and never wanted to fail on their commitments but thats how their ball bounced.  I do have sympathy for these folks.

2 - there are also some bad and lazy folks who only look out for themselves and are looking for an easy way out.  I have a family member like this and this perosn went on a shopping spree not long before filng for bankruptcy.  There was no fight and working long hours and extra jobs to save their financial name.  Rather it was like a joke to them.. spend all the money, keep all the goods, and wipe clean the debt.  If people like this want to be supported on the backs of the masses then I say we put them all in jail or some fenced in encampment so their laziness doesn&#039;t hurt so many other folks.


Now the folks in group 2 are often beyond help... or at least the help that I can give because they first have to want to help themselves.  Folks in the first group can help themselves by starting to remove debt from their lives.  You are a good example as you don&#039;t use credit cards... that is debt some folks never escape from but you know how it&#039;s done.  If more folks in group 1 moved to your example, there would be fewer folks in group 1.

Thanks for returning to comment again, I enjoy it.
Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Cindy!</p>
<p>You make some good points and I hope I can clarify my position.  In general, I think there are 2 kinds of people who files for bankruptcy or who have their possessions repossessed.</p>
<p>1 &#8211; there are good folks who fall on hard times and then backed into a corner after doing all they can and while being as honorable as they can through the process, they simply run out of rope.  They have to do something to reset the clock and start over.  In these instances giving up a house or car or filing for protection under bankruptcy laws is an acceptable (though unpleasant) path to take.  Folks in the group never intented or and never wanted to fail on their commitments but thats how their ball bounced.  I do have sympathy for these folks.</p>
<p>2 &#8211; there are also some bad and lazy folks who only look out for themselves and are looking for an easy way out.  I have a family member like this and this perosn went on a shopping spree not long before filng for bankruptcy.  There was no fight and working long hours and extra jobs to save their financial name.  Rather it was like a joke to them.. spend all the money, keep all the goods, and wipe clean the debt.  If people like this want to be supported on the backs of the masses then I say we put them all in jail or some fenced in encampment so their laziness doesn&#8217;t hurt so many other folks.</p>
<p>Now the folks in group 2 are often beyond help&#8230; or at least the help that I can give because they first have to want to help themselves.  Folks in the first group can help themselves by starting to remove debt from their lives.  You are a good example as you don&#8217;t use credit cards&#8230; that is debt some folks never escape from but you know how it&#8217;s done.  If more folks in group 1 moved to your example, there would be fewer folks in group 1.</p>
<p>Thanks for returning to comment again, I enjoy it.<br />
Dave</p>
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